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Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.07.27 13:11:00 - [1] This is how I see it from a person who bought a game and expects to have fun: 1. Level 4 missions help me make isk. 2. The isk from the Level 4 missions help me buy internet space ships. 3. I then fit those internet space ships with modules I buy with isk from level 4 missions and have created a PvP ship. 4. I then loose that PvP ship when I go out looking for trouble. 5. I had fun and I keep playing Eve. And start the cycle of life all over again. 6. This makes CCP happy and a little bit richer. After all that is all that matters. Now there are people who just like playing level 4 missions. Do I have a problem with that? No. They are having fun and they keep playing. I am not the richest person in the game and I am not the poorest. I have been playing this game on and off since 2003 and have seen level 4 missions go from taking a small gang due to "the NPCs all show at once" to the "NPCs spawn at a reasonable rate". People can talk numbers all they want and show PIE charts or squiggly line charts until the sky turns purple. What it comes down to is "how fun is the game" and do a majority of people who play this game really give a rats ass about the amount of isk people make from level 4 missions? That is a decision CCP has to make. From my experience in this game CCP will not modify High Sec level 4 missions to decrease the amount of isk generated by them. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.07.28 14:13:00 - [2] This might be my final post in this thread. It all depends on if I remember I said this will be my last post. I'm old and forgetful. But I digress. I use to run missions all the time with one of my other characters. I did it to just collect isk I guess. Now I do it only for the locator agents. The reason I do not want level 4 missions to change for high sec are really selfish on my part. Level 4 mission runners are a great source of wealth if farmed correctly. For some reason there are people who don't think you will make 27 jumps for a war target (lets see if CCP allows this): http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=7289479 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=7289477 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=7289466 ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
Traidor Disloyal Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.07.28 20:57:00 - [3] Originally by: g0ggalor I don't see what the big deal is about L4s being so profitable. The thing is that the mission isk gets used. Whether for pvp, fueling the market, put into manufacturing, whatever, the isk is spread out into eve and helps fuels the economy. I guess it wasn't my last post. I think (and lets stress the "I think" part) the reason that some people get upset with the payout of level 4 missions versus all other ways of making isk in game is this: The NPC bounties, wreak salvage, dropped modules, and mission payout are produced (created) by CCP and not by the player. Four income sources. And the sources are created from thin air so to speak. It's kind of like having your own printing press. The mission runner has no competition from other mission runners while he is running the mission. He may have competition for the salvage and the dropped modules from people scanning him down. But no other player will take the mission payout or the NPC bounty from him (I think). Mining and ratting are kind like this. A miner goes out and shoots a rock, collects minerals and makes isk from the rocks. One source of income for the miner. The rock is regenerated later. A ratter goes out and shoots an NPC in a belt and collects isk from the bounty. If he does not collect salvage and the dropped modules he only has one source of income. Otherwise he has three sources of income. The NPC is regenerated later. The difference here is that both the miner and the ratter can have competition from other players for the items they are making their income from. People don't have a lot of problems with mining and ratting. Not sure why because it sounds like people can make has much, if not more, then a mission runner if those people mine or rat in a good location. My opinion about this is what I have read. I don't like mining and ratting sounds like mission running to me. Trading and manufacturing, which makes a lot more then mission running, uses things produced or sold by other players to create wealth for the player that is trading or manufacturing. Traders and manufactures also have competition from other players when it comes to making isk The mission runner does produce stuff. He is producing minerals from the dropped modules and he provides salvage from the wreaks for others, or himself, to make rigs. You could think of him has a specialized miner of NPCs. But no other player will take the mission payout or the NPC bounty from him (I think). Let me repeat: I do not have problems with Level 4 mission runners. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.

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